Addon domain - Can't install vbulletin ...

misi

Growing Little Guru
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

Hey misi that seems perfect!! How can I do that?? I assume that the first step is to install the second forum at http://www.fororeptiles.org/something ...

Do not install it yet!

First we have to try http://bajapesca.org/foro

It has to give you the result: Hello Foros

It is not giving that result yet!!!

Go to your Cpanel > Domains > Addon Domains.

Take off bajapesca.org from there.

Go to Cpanel > Domains > Parked Domains > Add Domain.

Park bajapesca.org there
 

Luis Larios

New Member
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

Hi, sorry for not reply, had a lot of work but now I'm ready to follow misi's kind instructions!
Hey misi, I have ''un-addonded'' bajapesca.org and now is parked. What's next?
 

misi

Growing Little Guru

Luis Larios

New Member
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

Hey misi, if this parked domain is finally setup.. Am I going to be able to run an dedicated Index file for bajapesca.org? What I mean is that I need a website to show on bajapeca.org/index.htm ..
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

Hey misi, if this parked domain is finally setup.. Am I going to be able to run an dedicated Index file for bajapesca.org? What I mean is that I need a website to show on bajapeca.org/index.htm ..

It is possible to have an index.php and an index.htm in the same directory.

index.php comes first
index.htm comes second
 

Luis Larios

New Member
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

It is possible to have an index.php and an index.htm in the same directory.

index.php comes first
index.htm comes second
Hi misi, what I'm asking is that if possible to have diferent index.htm files for bajapesca.org/ and fororeptiles.org/ I not very good with engish and I'm very slow with computers. By the way, somebody cach trying to setup vb at an addon domain :rolleyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gIex0pd96U&feature=related
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

Hi misi, what I'm asking is that if possible to have diferent index.htm files for bajapesca.org/ and fororeptiles.org/ I not very good with engish and I'm very slow with computers.

No it is not possible.

You say diez
I say ten

They seem different but the meaning is the same:10

You do have only one webspace: 10

Into 10 we cannot put twice index.htm.



By the way, somebody cach trying to setup vb at an addon domain :rolleyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gIex0pd96U&feature=related
Hehe... :satisfied

And don't worry about your English.Mine is not better...:eek
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
Re: Addon domian - Can't install vbulletin ...

To configure vB to work on an addon domain and not to see in the address bar that it is cheating: unreliable.

I believe that you will endup with purchasing another webspace for your second forum.

A reseller account could be the answer as well.
The only problem with that: that is much more expensive.
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
I just have another thought...

Have you got a subdomain named foros ?

You may try to point your addon domain to foros.foreptiles.org

This way you may have an index.htm there.

How efficiently hides the address in the browsers address bar: I don't know.
 

Luis Larios

New Member
I just have another thought...

Have you got a subdomain named foros ?

You may try to point your addon domain to foros.foreptiles.org

This way you may have an index.htm there.

How efficiently hides the address in the browsers address bar: I don't know.
Hey misi, thanks for following this thread!
fororeptiles.org is not a very small site, so now is too late to change its index.htm file. fororeptiles.org/index.htm has to point to the reptile forums.

As you already said, I,m probably going to be getting a second hosting account or a dedicated server (hostgator already contacte me that I'm exeeding allowed inodes) ...
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
Hey misi, thanks for following this thread!
fororeptiles.org is not a very small site, so now is too late to change its index.htm file. fororeptiles.org/index.htm has to point to the reptile forums.

I did not say that you have to change fororeptiles.org's index.htm.

You do need a subdomain named bajapesca with its index.htm.
bajapesca would need a subdirectory: foro

foro would have only vB's index.php.

bajapesca.org would be pointed at foreptiles.org/bajapesca as an addon domain.

Think about it.

(hostgator already contacte me that I'm exeeding allowed inodes)
Over 250,000 ?


fororeptiles.org is not a very small site,
I saw it and liked it. I was tempted to join,but unfortunately I don't speak spanish,too late to learn it now! :tearful
 

Luis Larios

New Member
Hey misi, I finally solved my problem!! I think you already ask to check permissions and I did it, but i seems that I miss some. I contacted hosgator and the first thing they do was to run a permissions script that automatically change every single folder to 755 and every single file to 644. Worked my new forum is installed now at my addon domain. I feel like absolute
donkey.gif
....

Thanks a lot misi, I really aprechiate your valuable help!
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
I finally solved my problem!!

Good on ya Luis! :happy

Please just answer one question:
Over 250,000 ?

If the answer is NO then do not rush with a dedicated server.
inodes less then or equal to 50,000 : hostgator backs up your files.
inodes greater then 50.000 : no backups.

Can you backup your files? You could save a lot of money by backing up manually your site.
 

Luis Larios

New Member
Thanks a lot for this tip!! Yes I always bakup my databases. Take a look, this is the message that I receive from hosgator..
Date: Sun Jul 27 00:13:32 CDT 2008
Email: ***********@*****.com
Account Name: ******
Server: gator271.hostgator.com
iNodes (Files): 71863/50,000 (143.00%)

Hello,

To maintain the highest level of performance on our shared servers we have a maximum inode (file) limit of 50,000 inodes (files) per account. The size of the file does not matter, only the number of files. For example, a DVD image (say, 4.5gb) only counts as one inode, or file. Our limit, as outlined in our terms of service, is 50,000 files per account. We generally don't hold people strictly to this limit, but at the same time we expect our users to respect the limits of the system. When an account has hundreds of thousands of files, it significantly degrades overall disk performance, as each file on the disk must be tracked/indexed.

An easy analogy would be a table of contents or glossary for a book. If the book only has a few hundred pages, the index or glossary is likely to be small and easy to search. If the book has 5,000 pages, finding what you want might take significantly longer. The file system on a server works in a similar way, just on a larger scale. Our experience has shown that 50,000 files per account is a fair number, and accounts that exceed that by a significant amount cause disk performance issues. This message is to inform you that the listed account has significantly exceeded our limits for disk inodes/files and could potentially lead to disk issues.

It is also important to realize that accounts that exceed the inode (file) limit are not backed up by our courtesy weekly backup service, per section 7b of our Terms of Service. Of course, we advise every user to run their own backups to be safe. Accounts over our the 50,000 inode limit are bypassed so that backups can complete in a timely fashion for everyone. Otherwise, accounts with hundreds of thousands or more inodes will utilize more server resources than other accounts, and could lead to file system errors on our backup servers.

This account will be re-checked again in 7 days to verify it is below 50,000 files. If this account remains above the maximum inode limit after repeated checks, we'll have to review the situation further and advise a course of action. It is critical that one of the following actions take place before that happens:


a) reduce the number of inodes/files. This change must be permanent; if you have a high number of cache files or similar, and you expect them to naturally exceed the inode limit again in the future, the configuration must be changed to limit the total number of cached files.

If you are completely unaware of the source of the inodes, it may be that you have left your default mailbox enabled, and never cleared it. Over time, it can fill up with spam, consuming hundreds of thousands of inodes. If you have a catch-all enabled on your account, this can greatly increase the amount of mail/spam that our account receives and will raise your inode usage quickly unless routinely emptied. If you would like assistance clearing these folders from unwanted email or removing the catch-all from your account, please let us know and we would be happy to assist you.


The default mailbox is located at:

/home/nahual/mail/cur
/home/nahual/mail/new


b) upgrade to dedicated service, where inode counts are no longer checked. In many cases, accounts that significantly exceed our inode/file limits have simply outgrown the shared environment, and a dedicated server is the logical choice. In many cases, the transfer from a shared to dedicated server will incur no charge. In rare situations, accounts with excessive numbers of accounts or users may require a fee; the transfer department would advise you of that fact prior to the transfer taking place. If you've read this far, it's clear you're serious about taking care of the issue and we can offer you 50% off off the first month's purchase of a dedicated server. To receive the discount, please:

- Reply to this email stating you'd like to upgrade. You will
automatically be assigned a ticket number, which will be
visible in the subject line. You may need to confirm your
email if this is the first time you've ever sent us a
ticket or emailed one of our departments.


- Order a dedicated server:
http://www.hostgator.com/billing/order/orderwiz.php

- Email sales@hostgator.com after placing your order. This
promotion is unadvertised, and must be manually approved.
You must reference the ticket # you receive (above) to
qualify for the discounted rate. This promotion only
applies to dedicated servers priced $ 219.00 or higher.


We thank you for taking the time to resolve this issue. If you have any questions or perhaps you are not sure what could be causing the high number of inodes, we can help you with that. Simply reply to this email and we will be more than happy to assist you.

Date: Sun Jul 27 00:13:32 CDT 2008
Email: *************@*****.com
Account Name: ******
Server: gator271.hostgator.com
iNodes (Files): 71863/50,000 (143.00%)

email address edited by misi
 

misi

Growing Little Guru
Take a look, this is the message that I receive from hosgator..

iNodes (Files): 71863/50,000 (143.00%)

Just disregard the message.
I have received the same email.

Date: Sun Jul 27 00:19:17 CDT 2008
Email: *******@*****.com
Account Name: *******
Server: gator431.hostgator.com
iNodes (Files): 56795/50,000 (113.00%)

Hello,

To maintain the highest level of performance on our shared servers we have a maximum inode (file) limit of 50,000 inodes (files) per account. The size of the file does not matter, only the number of files. For example, a DVD image (say, 4.5gb) only counts as one inode, or file. Our limit, as outlined in our terms of service, is 50,000 files per account. We generally don't hold people strictly to this limit, but at the same time we expect our users to respect the limits of the system. When an account has hundreds of thousands of files, it significantly degrades overall disk performance, as each file on the disk must be tracked/indexed.


Save your money for something else.
 

Luis Larios

New Member
I was really preocuped for thi issue, I was sure that was about to find my forum down at any moment because of this no atteded inodes issue. Thanks a lot for this big savings tip!!
 
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